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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: Wargaming 'zines
I've been looking at the site organization overall, and I wonder if wargaming zines shouldn't be sorted separately from RPG fanzines. I'm especially looking at the following, which are currently in the "fanzine research" category:
International Wargamer, El Conquistador, Wargamer's Newsletter, Wargamers Yearbook, War Game Digest
(Miniature Warfare isn't properly a fanzine, it's a prozine)
Those really seem out of place given that the wargaming research forum contains Lowrys Guidon, Europa Magazine, The Wargamer, and so on. If I were shopping for a place for, say, Panzerfaust or SIM, I think they really fall more under wargaming than fanzine. By the end of their respective runs, there's no doubt that any claim they had to being 'fanzines', anyway, had long since been lost.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:
Would you want them under the Wargames Category? That's fine with me. I'd really like that section to be the best it can be. Besides, it places them within the context of their creation.
Also, do you think periodicals should go under their own heading at the top of the Wargames forum or appear in the forum under publisher's category like everything else? _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:45 am Post subject:
Basically, yes, I'd recommend that they appear in the Wargames Category. Delineating periodicals from one-time formal publications might have a few corner cases, but is pretty straightforward.
I also have a hard time thinking of any fanzines that really cross the wargame/RPG border, but that may be ignorance on my part. Hypothetically, those would remain in the RPG-related sections, I'd imagine.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject:
While we are segmenting the wargaming zines from the fanzine research forum (RF), I am still compiling a complete list of all zines, newsletters, and other periodical titles into a single list. Please stop in for any suggestions for additons....
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:21 am Post subject:
Trying to capture, well, the entirety of zine output is quite an ambitious task. Do you want, for example, every Diplomacy fanzine? You might very well double the size of your list on those grounds alone. I think you'd need to adopt some more modest scope to have any hope of achieving completeness.
That much said, there are inexcusable gaps in our current coverage of wargame zines, and the most prominent of the Diplomacy zines should also receive their due.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:49 am Post subject:
I'd say, yes, we should include all wargaming zines, even if we have to split them off for good and house them under the authority of the Wargames department. It is my hope some energetic souls will show up here and start filling out those areas of the site. There is always plenty of cyber-room.
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:35 am Post subject:
It's a very tall order. I switched my collecting emphasis a few years ago to give the Tome a chance at variety and scope. Now that things are beginning to take shape, I can relax a little bit (I already have, in fact). We really need serious and dedicated wargame collectors here to contribute their knowledge and collections. We also need the new collector, the kind who wants to give collecting a try. That point of view is just as valuable. There are new companies coming out all of the time. I'd like to see them here too. The goal, it seems to me, is to get as many people involved as possible. The Tome is about creating the opportunity for people to become involved. The material will come and keep coming long after our watch. That's the faith I have. _________________ "This is cool."
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:11 am Post subject:
I've been at a bit of a loss as to how to attack this, but I imagine that the proper approach is an incremental one (if I can be forgiven for that zinger). This list is therefore exclusive of Diplomacy titles and related postal gaming zines, as well as transition zines between wargaming and RPGs like El Conquistador , The Space Gamer or GP2N, let alone The Strategic Review. I also exclude magazines dedicated to miniature collection and decoration without focus on wargaming, and thus no BMSS Bulletin, Dispatch or Milihistriot/Military Miniature Collector (against my better judgment, perhaps, I'll leave in The Vedette and The Fusilier).
As George Phillies once observed, there was an explosion in wargaming periodicals between the years of 1969 and 1971, but the number and girth of magazines quickly declined as groups consolidated and the initial fervor of the clubs receded. By the mid-70s, wargaming itself began to wane as its base migrated to the RPG community.
The scope of my listings here closes, chronologically as well as alphabetically, with Wargaming; no especial attempt has been made to index later additions. It is also fairly America-centric; there are no doubt UK publications neglected here. Although I'm sure this list is not complete, it's probably a decent start.
A-Elim
Abwher (merged into Jadgpanther)
Aerodrome (IFW)
AHIKS West (AHIKS)
Alnavco Log
American Wargamer (AWA)
Ancient Society News (merged to Domesday Book, aka "New Carthage News")
Angreifer Zeitschrift (Aggressor)
Ann Arbor Wargamer
Anschluss
The Armchair General
Arquebusier
Der Armvogel (Der Totenkopf SS)
The Artisan
Barbarossa Bulletin
Battle Flag
Battle Plan
Battle Report (merged in AW)
Battlefleet
Bayonet
Blitzkrieg Bulletin (IFW, merged into E'44)
Brandenburger
Bushwacker
Campaign (formerly Panzerfaust)
Canadian Wargamer (MGC)
Cardboard Commander (IFW)
Conflict
Courier (Red Lions; subsequently Boldland)
Courier (NEWA)
D-Elim (MSC)
Domesday Book (IFW)
Europa
Europe '44 (IFW)
Fieldcom
The Flying Buffalo's Favorite Magazine (FBI)
Fusilier
G.A.L.A.X.Y.
Game Design
Gamer's Guide (eventually Sparta)
Gamesletter (NFFF)
Avalon Hill General (prozine)
Gladiator Report (Sparta)
Grapeshot
The Great War (IFW)
Grundsteit
Guide to Wargaming Periodical Literature
Guidon (MFCA, mostly miniatures)
The Herald [AHG:v4n4]
The History of Wargaming Quarterly
ICW Newsletter (later Bushwacker)
IFW Messenger (IFW)
IFW Monthly (IFW)
International Wargamer (IFW)
International Wargamer Supplement (IFW)
Interplanetary Communicator
Jagdpanther
Kampf (Dunnigan pre-S&T)
Kampfgruppe Peiper Wargaming Journal
Koenigstiger
Kommandeur (AHIKS)
La Vivandiere
Liberator
Little Wars (prozine, TSR)
Lowrys Guidon
Der Lage (DDW)
The Mercenary [AHG:v5n2]
Michigan Gaming Review (quickly became Midwest GR)
Midwest Gaming Review
Miniature Parade (Scruby)
Miniature Warfare (prozine)
Moves (prozine)
Der Neue Angreifer (Aggressor)
New Aggressor Informant (Aggressor)
NEWA Newsletter (NEWA, became "The Courier after vol 1)
Northeast Pathfinder
Nuntius Bellum (Cobra Wargaming Club)
Outposts
Pacific Northwest War Games Opponents Guide
The Panzer [AHG:v4n2]
Panzer Assault
Panzerfaust (POW)
Penn Wargamer's Newsletter
Potomic Wargamer
Propagandist
Phoenix (Aggressor)
Region 7 Dispatch (IFW)
Savage and Soldier
Das Schwarze Korps (Aggressor)
Scabbard
Search and Destroy
Sentinel
Signal
Slingshot (Bath)
SNCL Monthly (Sparta)
The Spartan (IFW)
Spartan Chronicle (Sparta)
Spartan International Monthly (Sparta)
Spartan International News (Sparta)
Spartan Naval Society Newsmagazine (Sparta)
Spartan Phantom (John Hall Syndicate)
Spartan Simulation Gaming Journal (Sparta)
St. John's University Military Strategy Club Newsletter (later D-Elim)
Strategy & Tactics (prozine)
S&T Staff Newsletter
S&T Supplement
Stalingrad Review (IFW, merged into E'44)
The Stormtrooper (Aggressor)
Strategic Report
Supernova
Swabbers
Tactics & Variants
Table Top Talk
The Tank (MIT, merged into Panzerfaust)
Tricolor (IFW)
Trumpeter (MDC)
The Vedette
War Game Digest (Scruby)
The Wargamer
Wargamer's Digest
Wargamer's Information (FBI)
Wargamer's Newsletter
Wargamer's Tabloid (IGA, late Sparta splinter)
Wargaming (FGU)
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:19 am Post subject:
Primo!
BTW: Those WI from FB will look nice here! I almost went for them, but I thought they would go better with the other FB stuff you picked up in August. Boy did you get a good deal! _________________ "This is cool."
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