T.M. Games and Endless Games

myvyrrian · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: T.M. Games and Endless Games

I have a question... I have two Endless Games pads, Solo Game Book character log (science fantasy) and character log (fantasy adventure).

These pads are from Endless Games but on afterglow, for endless games, there is no pads like these one:
http://www.afterglow2.com/Product/Endless.htm
However, on the bottom of the pads, there is TM Games, from UK. On afterglow, there is TM Games
http://www.afterglow2.com/Product/TMG.htm

Where to put them? Is TM Games on afterglow the same as the TM Games of these pads?

Pictures of the pads:

scribe · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject:

Not sure I can comment on intent of organization on that AG2 site, but it seems to me that these should be organized under the company name TM Games. Is their more precise wording under the copyright's portion within the books?
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myvyrrian · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks!
I don't know it there is other information since my copies are in shrink. I guess there is not because these are only sheet pads.

So a T.M. Games subforum have to be created... Anyone?

tfm · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject:

Done!
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myvyrrian · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject:

I will post them this week end

Mars · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject:

This is another case where we will probably need a bunch of cross referencing.

By the looks of it, all the stuff labeled "Endless Games" is copyright TM Games. I have some other character sheets packages, hex overlays and hex pads under the "Endless Games" line which are also copyright TM Games.

However, the individual items in the "Endless Plans" line of geomorph type items is copyright "Allen Hickling t/a Endless Games".

I think TM Games is actually a distributor who was involved with the Complete Dungeon Master boxed set series by Integrated Games. If you look on the back of CDM 1, there is a copyright that the "Endless Plans" included in these sets is copyright "Endless Games" or "A. Hickling (Endless Games)". But on CDM 2-4 the copyright has changed to TM Games.